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• #1352
Thanks for posting that branwen great blog.
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• #1353
That is an interesting blog yes.
I need a favour--- urgent actually.
Some time ago one of the main bloggers did a piece on peds vs bikes data.
Studies showed no detriment to shared space.
Anyway I need a linky to that data/blog post.
The local ukip anti cyclist has weighed in in my area and I need to outwit him
Anyone remember it and can link me be very grateful
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• #1354
What was the context? I was just reading stuff about that because of this nasty story:
I don't remember anything, off the top of my head.
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• #1355
i'm not clear exactly what you're asking for - what was the argument in the blog?
That is an interesting blog yes.
I need a favour--- urgent actually.
Some time ago one of the main bloggers did a piece on peds vs bikes data.
Studies showed no detriment to shared space.
Anyway I need a linky to that data/blog post.
The local ukip anti cyclist has weighed in in my area and I need to outwit him
Anyone remember it and can link me be very grateful
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• #1356
all the people i know who campaign for protected space on main roads also campaign for filtered permeability, 20 mph limits, better education for drivers, and better availability of cycle training for anyone who wants it.
Is there an intetgration campaign? I didn't know. Who are they? Most people support lots of different interventions to encourage Cycling (most people apart from the segregation campaign)
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• #1357
i'm not clear exactly what you're asking for - what was the argument in the blog?
Okay thx for reply, you musnt have seen it. Data rich- inferring peds and bikes can get on. Lots of urban data showing flows of riders matching exactly when youd expect them to be I.e rush hours to and from work when people used ped areas to no detriment. Just like every UK town
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• #1358
this?
http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/cycling-in-pedestrianised-areas/
Okay thx for reply, you musnt have seen it. Data rich- inferring peds and bikes can get on. Lots of urban data showing flows of riders matching exactly when youd expect them to be I.e rush hours to and from work when people used ped areas to no detriment. Just like every UK town
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• #1359
Unconditional love for the forum.thanks so much. Theres more data to bamboozle the fuck out of him for at least 3 copies of the locall rag.
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• #1360
Whilst we're on the subject of cycle campaigning, I've created a couple of threads. One for London Cycling Campaign's Space for Cycling local election efforts and the Space for Cycling Big Ride.
Both tie in closely with the work that CTC is doing on a national level and would be great for people to support as the local elections come closer.
Gustav, thanks for setting this up. I will post more details in the separate threads but here are some headlines:Space for Cycling Campaign http://space4cycling.org/ for the local elections on 22nd May. This is where you enter your postcode and send an email to every candidate in your ward asking them to support a specific demand for Space for Cycling in that ward. You can edit the email to add your particular requests.
The exciting bit is that there is a map. Or is it 629 maps, one for each ward in every borough. If you want to search your borough or the wards you can enter the details and see the maps on this page http://action.space4cycling.org/It wouldn't be a big campaign without a Big Ride, so here it is
http://lcc.org.uk/pages/big-ride-2014 Saturday 17th May from 12pm - 2pm starting in Park Lane. There are also 28 feeder rides coming from all over London, full details on another MAP .What about the Tweed Run also on Saturday 17th May? The brilliant Tweed Run people have made London Cycling Campaign their charity of choice this year. There is special kudos for every Tweed Runner who incorporates a Space for Cycling logo or poster in their kit.
If we get the timing right the Space for Cycling Big Ride will cross paths with the Tweed Run. In respect for their cultural superiority The Space for Cycling Big Ride will stop to let the Tweed Run pass. No doubt there will be some 'Hurrah' and 'Jolly Good Show' cheering in support for each other.
Did I mention that there is a map?
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• #1361
Charlie, you nearly made me choke on my coffee... "cultural superiority" I can't help but wonder how poor london is going to deal with two big rides on the same day :)
I love the map and CTC's one does the same sort of thing on a national level. it's not quite where your's is yet though!
There's also virtural participation which i think anyone who rides and tweets should join - its a "Thunder Clap" wouldn't it be sort of neat to actually have our mission for Space for Cycling trend (even for a second)...
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• #1362
If we get the timing right the Space for Cycling Big Ride will cross paths with the Tweed Run. In respect for their cultural superiority The Space for Cycling Big Ride will stop to let the Tweed Run pass. No doubt there will be some 'Hurrah' and 'Jolly Good Show' cheering in support for each other.
This intersection of 2 London mass rides should be a sight to behold. Though the tweed may get swamped by the space space for cycling colours...
...unless the message to wear normal clothes could be spread through LCCs comms
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• #1363
^^ looks like a football stadium stewards' convention. That's hardly 'normalising' cycling is it.
(notwithstanding the good intentions of the campaign)
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• #1364
Has anyone defined what "normal" cycling is?
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• #1365
Doesn't LCC think the Dutch have current dibs on 'normal'?
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• #1366
Has anyone defined what "normal" cycling is?
RJLing with headphones, flat rear and sportsdirect mtb.
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• #1367
If you worn what you normally wear when walking = normal.
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• #1368
Has anyone defined what "normal" cycling is?
normal = people on bicycle, instead of "cyclist".
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• #1369
Has anyone defined what "normal" cycling is?
It's too normal to be defined.
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• #1370
Here we go, bonkers road-building plans are back again. I've known about this for a while, but this is the first high-profile mention in the press that I've seen.
Some of the cost would be met by freeing up development sites worth billions of pounds that are currently hemmed in by traffic, such as the area around the Vauxhall interchange. Isabel Dedring, Deputy Mayor for Transport, said: “We are at the very early stage in exploring the potential. Cities such as Paris, Oslo and Boston have undertaken these kinds of ambitious projects and have seen dramatic results.
“This is not about creating a motorway through the centre of London. It’s about freeing up capacity on the city surface, improving air quality, and reclaiming space for public parks, pedestrians and cyclists.”
All easily avoidable if a different spatial development strategy is adopted for London and proper modal shift is done. But no, let's just assume that the status quo will continue.
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• #1371
Oh the irony... Build more roads to free us space for walking and cycling.
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• #1372
Here we go, bonkers road-building plans are back again. I've known about this for a while, but this is the first high-profile mention in the press that I've seen.
I can think of many constructive things to do with £30bn of public money in London, and this ain't one of them. The Standard report is little more than a rehash of TfL PR puff, and I note that the piece has the byline of the paper's political editor, not that of a transport specialist such as as Matthew Beard, who would surely have given the matter more critical journalistic attention.
This is a political message from Boris Johnson, not a concrete transport infrastructure proposal.
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• #1374
Another citation:
http://londonist.com/2014/05/plans-for-a-22-mile-ring-road-beneath-london.php
This is a political message from Boris Johnson, not a concrete transport infrastructure proposal.
Well, I happen to know that it is being very seriously considered at TfL. The fact that it would take a long time to develop, and cost a bomb, doesn't mean that it isn't an actual infrastructure proposal. You're obviously right that it also indicates a political direction--try to avoid tackling the problem at source and apply avoidance tactics--, but it has to be taken extremely seriously right now. Otherwise, protesting when it's actually being built will be too late.
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• #1375
Needless to say, the campaign against the Silvertown Tunnel, in which Francis is involved in a leading role, deserves all the support it can get.
http://helenblackman.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/chris-hoy-cycling-and-the-borg/
I think this sums up my feelings about perception, and what needs to be changed far better than I can.
And my current point that segregation worked really well for African Americans, or LGBT community etc etc