Which steel road frames / steel bikes?

Both the bike listed as a 59cm TT, how long is your stem on your current 60cm bicycle?

It's too early a frame anyway mate but thanks for the suggestion

(I ride a 130 and 125mm btw)

59cm with 120-115mm stem will work well, or stick a compact drop and using existing stem.

Lee Cooper - Builds for 18bike co, Hobo

http://www.hobobicycles.co.uk/WeirdyBeardy.html they've a tourer frame 875 for 631, 1025 for 853.

http://customcycleframes.blogspot.co.uk/ for Lee custom work. I've a Thorn Audax from him, lovely fillet brazed road buzz soaking hours of comfort enjoyment.

An audax would fit your needs perhaps? Road parts + carry stuff + front fork loading for extra I haz tourer points.

Thorn cycles + spa cycles do good frames/bikes if you decide not to go custom. Old school touring places. Spa does a TI one too. Both UK companies run by a small group of enthusiasts.

Good point re audax - I think this would be a better option instead of a tourer as I'm looking for one bike rather than having a stable of bikes (just don't have the room).

Max touring I'm going to be doing is with a set of Ortileb 40L panniers in the rear, a small bag on the headset or top or the rack and a tent along the top tube. Though it will mostly be used for weekend rides and commuting.

Any Audax recommendations? I'm thinking about the Lynskey Viale - looks like this suits, just a tad on the expensive side! and not steel... it's Ti.

If you want to still get a frame built all of the above know what they're doing.

Off the peg there's a fair bit of small UK companies left like thorn, spa etc....thorn has been at their work for years and only do tourers audax etc.. No doubt others here know similar small UK enthusiasts led places.

Spa does a very reasonable priced ti audax. If you want ti worth a look. See my above post for example review and weight of audax.

www.singularcycles.com

Talbot will soon have on their website an Audax bike that is very similar in deism to my Time Machine, but not quite so over the top.

Pricing will be in line with the other models.

/Spam

Thanks but seriously, I'm OK waiting for the right one. Shorter stems = twitchier steering anyhow.

Meanwhile, they keep popping up! At an expensive price mind....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-90s-EDDY-MERCKX-MX-LEADER-frame-frameset-WOW/131181079338?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222006%26algo%3DSIC.FITP%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22046%26meid%3D6621330139110605167%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9537%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D141143632565http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=131181079338&mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]

Never seen the double seat tube bolts and extended steerer on an leader frame - interesting!

Looking to built a road bike to last for ever!! So i thought i'll go with steel.
Want to keep it around 1500 for now with the option to upgrade parts in the future maybe, so
Who, how much, where can i order.. Go..

1500 fully built inc parts? or F&F?

This: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-RYCHTARSKI-Custom-Sax-Max-x-Columbus-Steel-Lugged-Road-Frame-set-colnago-/181391218739?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Fragrances_Women_s_Fragrances_PP&hash=item2a3bc25833

email them at hello[at]wittson[dot]com that way its £699

New 105 will be here by the time you get the frameset.

Then you are left with £450 for wheels and finishing kit.

thanks amey, will look into it.

how about pelizzoli. anyone had experience?

This dude: http://www.lfgss.com/thread113761.html

Although as per my understanding they arent as cheap as Rychtarski (Columbus cromor) and I think they specialize in tarck/track bikes.

rychtarski offer a cheaper price w/out inclusive fork? would be nice to shave a little weight w/some crabon at the front

thats including fork

Chickens frame emporium. Check him out he's probably fully booked though for quite a while.

Hi looking for suggestions for LBS' that sell steel bikes. Looking to buy an audax bike and get a bike fit before buying. I know about Mosquito any others? I'm looking to spend around £1-£1.5k and I'd like a full bike not just the frame. Thx

Kinoko. For that price a full bike would probably be a Surly Long Haul Trucker/Straggler/Disc Trucker/Cross Check. Both shops are surly dealers.

Rourke would be my 1st choice. Get the train up or ride!

http://www.roadbikereview.com/reviews/nahbs-2016-english-cycles-9-9-lbs-stainless-steel-road-bike