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I like them, very stiff, as stiff in my opinion as my Dragons, and the lacing makes the fit easy to refine.
When I bought them I had to pretend I didn't have new shoes to Mrs Adroit, and I tried all sorts of things to get them a bit grubby, and they still looked pristine by the time I got home.
They are also pretty good for walking in, but the soles are wearing quite quickly so I have gone back to my spd cleat covers for the moment.
I'd give them 8/10