^^^ Pretty much, but with some of my own request such as a lower than standard bottom bracket (my Oak is 255mm from the bottom bracket to the ground), slightly taller headtube to slam the stem (ahead mean I'll just flip it upside down), downtube shifter mount, full brake housing routing, no rear rack mount, semi-compact to run a bikepacking saddlebag.
I went for Elephants due to the feedback it got in regard to the steel fork and disc brakes, Glen is confident with this design after many trial and error to ensure ride quality isn't reduced with the disc;
I was thinking about a genesis croix de fer frame and custom low trail disc fork but I do like the look of those elephants I must say.
The slack head angle of the Genesis (unless you need the much larger size) mean you'll need a massive amount of rake* to get the low trail geometry.
*71 degree head tube mean 80mm rake on the fork to get a trail of 35mm with 32mm tyres, which will look incredibly weird like those old Indian town bike.
The "magic" number that Rene Herse have set the standard is 73 degree head angle with a 65mm fork rake (or 60mm for 32mm tyres on 700c), like this MAP S&P;
My Oak is closer to a 72 degree headtube (69mm fork rake) due to the incredibly short top tube that if it's any steeper, the mudguard will foil the downtube, pedal overlap were the least of my concern;
^^^ Pretty much, but with some of my own request such as a lower than standard bottom bracket (my Oak is 255mm from the bottom bracket to the ground), slightly taller headtube to slam the stem (ahead mean I'll just flip it upside down), downtube shifter mount, full brake housing routing, no rear rack mount, semi-compact to run a bikepacking saddlebag.
I went for Elephants due to the feedback it got in regard to the steel fork and disc brakes, Glen is confident with this design after many trial and error to ensure ride quality isn't reduced with the disc;
The slack head angle of the Genesis (unless you need the much larger size) mean you'll need a massive amount of rake* to get the low trail geometry.
*71 degree head tube mean 80mm rake on the fork to get a trail of 35mm with 32mm tyres, which will look incredibly weird like those old Indian town bike.
The "magic" number that Rene Herse have set the standard is 73 degree head angle with a 65mm fork rake (or 60mm for 32mm tyres on 700c), like this MAP S&P;
My Oak is closer to a 72 degree headtube (69mm fork rake) due to the incredibly short top tube that if it's any steeper, the mudguard will foil the downtube, pedal overlap were the least of my concern;