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  • Nice find. That's a good price. Are stainless ones like the Gilles Berthoud's considerably heavier than an alu (or plastic) equivalent? Are there any disadvantages to any material?

    I've only used plastic before now

    Heavier than alu, but lighter than plastic due to using alu stay instead of steel like the plastic SKS.

    As I understood it the long version are only longer on the top part of the front wheel, to suit bikes with massive front bag / high rack type gubbins.

    It's long and not drilled, meaning you can positioned it anyway you like.

    Also the long front mean on club ride, the person in front won't get a wet bum from your front wheel spray.

    Incidentally my "long" Berthoud isn't long enough in the front and back, Velo Orange and Honjo however are very long;


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