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  • a constant stimulus of carbohydrate in the mouth to produce the boost seen in mouth-rinse studies;

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  • If anyone's interested in studies, "Single and combined effects of beetroot juice and caffeine supplementation on cycling time trial performance." is worth a read.

  • so from that (single study) it would suggest yay to the caffeine and nay to the beetroot.

  • Word. Caffeine is great. Upto 250mg is proved useful, more not beneficial. And it peaks about 1h after ingestion. Chew them up in mouth, or smash up and put in a bidon to drink. But if you drink lots of coffee normally, the effect will be lessened.

    Beetroot, is a real mixed bag still. A fair bit of negative or low benefit press. I'd not bother.

  • Asda were selling the cartons for £1 each last week, picked up a few. Kinda got used to the taste now.

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  • If anyone's interested in studies, "Single and combined effects of beetroot juice and caffeine supplementation on cycling time trial performance." is worth a read.

    You mean the study that the whole article I just linked to is about?

  • Oops, yes. Really should read what other people post.

  • Word. Caffeine is great. Upto 250mg is proved useful, more not beneficial. And it peaks about 1h after ingestion. Chew them up in mouth, or smash up and put in a bidon to drink. But if you drink lots of coffee normally, the effect will be lessened.

    Beetroot, is a real mixed bag still. A fair bit of negative or low benefit press. I'd not bother.

    You have old information.

    For starters you're probably better off using 3-6mg/kg rather than an arbitrary 250mg - dose depends on your weight. Peak might be 1hr after but the half life is something like 6 hours so redosing is bad. Being a regular coffee drinker doesn't necessarily negate or reduce the effect - again it depends on how much you take and your own body's response to it.

    There have been more recent studies but some general info can be found in: http://www.gssiweb.org/Article/sse-60-caffeine-and-exercise-performance

  • Thanks.

  • I normally recommend (and use) a flat 6mg/kg for everyone. For ease of use the cheap glucose/dextrose/caffeine pills you can get from Sainsbury's/Boots are fine, don't use Pro Plus as they have sorbitol coating and are way too expensive.

    Caffeinated gum doesn't have enough in it to reach the 6mg/kg for most people so you have to have too much for it to be practical, unless you're doing a long event that needs a dripfeed (long TT, RR, Audax etc.) or an intermittent exercise event like a track omnium or sprint tournament

    Xav

  • Shallower... the Hoxton Massive will not be happy.

  • Slower on float days and shit days :-)

    That's a huge benefit at 10°-12° though, plus the gain from using a wider tyre. The sharp rise in drag at 15° suggests a stall, which usually means a wheel becomes a bit of a handful, so it seems that the docile 'all conditions' H3 has been joined by a super fast 'light winds only' GT3, not usurped.


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  • It's stilly really isn't it - all they've done is make a trispoke version of the Stinger 7 with the same stall angles etc. I doubt it would be easier to handle than a Stinger too. No wheel/tyre combo I've ever tested at typical yaws has beaten out my H3 with a narrow VF Record and treated bearings, but you can't find the old VF Records now so a clincher is a better bet.

    Xav

  • Old VF? Which are the old?

  • The 20mm versions, all the new tubulars with the big Veloflex logo are 22mm. Clinchers still 20mm but there are better 20mm tyres for a clincher trispoke like GP Supersonics

    Xav

  • I think there's not much to choose between VF Record and GP Supersonic as tyres, are you saying the Conti is measurably better when combined with the H3 as a system?

  • Oh. Planet x have 20s.
    Or they say they have 20s.

  • I bought a Planet X "20" but they just copied and pasted the text on their website, all they have are 22s and it's going back to them tomorrow :(

    The Conti supersonic should be better overall (ie. Crr and drag) than a VF Record clincher, the VF tubs are ever so slightly different (and you can silicon seal the edges too). The old Bontrager Aerowing 19mm TT clinchers were sweet (and bombproof) but a bit of a lottery as to whether you'd get a low Crr or high Crr one

    Xav

  • AHH.

    I'll treasure the pretty much new one on my Tri-spoke then.

  • Have you tried FMB? As they is not really test data out there for them. But silk and latex.

  • I used a Evo CX 20c on mine for most of last year, going to keep it on for more sporting/club events and use a Supersonic for fast courses.

  • I was planning on getting a 20 to use on the front, I've got some 23 left to use on the rear.

    Being as I'll be riding to most races, the Supersonic looks a bit too thin and I'll happily trade some performance, for protection.

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